<html><body><div>O MBP é de 2010 vai no maximo 10.13 </div><div>Fiz um teste num MBP 2012 com o 10.15 e importou de boa, tanto pelo photos quanto pelo Image Capture App.</div><div>sera que via airdrop da?</div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div>Caio</div><div><br>Em 1 de setembro de 2021 9:52, Mario Jorge Passos <mj@passos.net> escreveu:<br><br></div><div><blockquote type="cite"><div class="msg-quote" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" data-mce-style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">Dandalo,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Como disse, não tenho um iPHone 12 e um macOS 13 para testar. E o problema, me parece, não é abrir, mas importar. Imagino que no caso em questão talvez faltem updates do macOS.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Não sei qual é o Fotos/macOS mais antigo que reconhece um iPhone 12. Se bem me lembro, as versões mais antigas do Fotos/macOS não reconhecem fotos que são “sequencias” (esqueci o nome). Mas é bom notar que o HEIC foi introduzido no iOS 11. Isso faz algum tempo :-).</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Abraço,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">mj<br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote class="" type="cite"><div class="">On 1 Sep 2021, at 09:13, Dandalo Gabrielli <<a class="" href="mailto:dandalogabrielli@terra.com.br" data-mce-href="mailto:dandalogabrielli@terra.com.br">dandalogabrielli@terra.com.br</a>> wrote:</div><div class=""><div class="" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" data-mce-style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">Mário, <div class="">Com o 10.13, não há tem problemas em abrir as fotos que estão salvas em Heic. 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O iPhone tem tempo que usa HEIC (High Efficiency Image Compression) para permitir que imagens de resuloução cada vez maior não encham de vez seu iPhone e Mac. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Não conheço programas para importar. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">abraço,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">mj<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote class="" type="cite"><div class="">On 31 Aug 2021, at 15:28, Caio M <<a class="" href="mailto:caiom@me.com" data-mce-href="mailto:caiom@me.com">caiom@me.com</a>> wrote:</div><div class=""><div class=""><div class="">Oi Mario,</div><div class=""><br class="" data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div class="">Pensei nisso mas os videos e fotos tirados dos iphones novos nao sao .jpeg ou mudou? teoricamente deveriam ser compatives. </div><div class=""><br class="" data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div class="">Conhece algum outro programa de terceiro que possa tentar importar?</div><div class=""><br class="" data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div class="">Caio</div><div class=""><br class="" data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div class=""><br class="">Em 31 de agosto de 2021 15:23, Mario Jorge Passos <<a class="" href="mailto:mj@passos.net" data-mce-href="mailto:mj@passos.net">mj@passos.net</a>> escreveu:<br class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><blockquote class="" type="cite"><div class="msg-quote"><div class="_stretch"><span class="body-text-content">Caio,<br class=""><br class="">Não tenho um par iPhone 12 macOs High Sierra, mas a possível origem do problema é “modernidade”. O 10.13 pode não saber lidar com as fotos em novos formatos do iPhone. <br class=""><br class="">Abraço. <br class=""><br class="">mj<br class=""><br class="">Sent from my iPhone<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text">On 31 Aug 2021, at 15:10, Caio M <<a class="" href="mailto:caiom@me.com" data-mce-href="mailto:caiom@me.com">caiom@me.com</a>> wrote:</blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text">Pessoal,</blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text">estou apanhando aqui,</blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text">um iphone 12. no MBP com 10.13</blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text">Nao consigo importar nem pelo Photos nem pelo ImageCapture.</blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text">Alem de nao carregar as imagens o photos só fica pensando e nao importa ou da erro dizendo que o arquivo é irreconhecivel.</blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text">No ImageCaputre da erro.</blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text">Apple esta me deixando louco.</blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><br class=""></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text">Alguma sugestão?</blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><Screen Shot 2021-08-31 at 14.24.32.jpg></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text"><Screen Shot 2021-08-31 at 10.49.20.jpg></blockquote><blockquote type="cite" class="quoted-plain-text">_______________________________________________</blockquote></span></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div><div class="_stretch"><span class="body-text-content">_______________________________________________<br>Lista Mac-BR<br><a href="mailto:Mac-BR@lists.powercity.net" data-mce-href="mailto:Mac-BR@lists.powercity.net">Mac-BR@lists.powercity.net</a><br>Para ir aos arquivos, assinar, desassinar e modificar sua assinatura visite:<br><a href="http://lists.powercity.net/listinfo.cgi/mac-br-powercity.net" data-mce-href="http://lists.powercity.net/listinfo.cgi/mac-br-powercity.net">http://lists.powercity.net/listinfo.cgi/mac-br-powercity.net</a><br></span></div></div></blockquote></div></body></html>